Group 1850 (aka Groep 1850)


Band members               Related acts

- Ron de Rijke -- bass (1966-67)

- David Duba -- guitar (replaced Daniel van Bergen) (1968-)

- Dolf Geldof -- bass (replaced Ruud van Buren) (1968-6)

- Beer Klaasse -- drums (1966-68)
- Peter Sjardin -- vocals, keyboards, flute (1966-75)

- Daniel van Bergen -- lead guitar (1966-68)

- Ruud van Buren -- bass (replaced Ron de Rijke) (1966-68)

- Martin van Duynhoven -- drums (repalaced Beer Klaasse)

  (1968-69)

- Paul van Wageningen -- drums (replaced Martin van

  Duynhoven) (1969-)

 

 

 

- Boots (Beer Klaasse, Daniel van Bergen and Ruud van

  Buren)

- Burning Sun (David Duba)

- Finch (Beer Klaasse)

- Kick & Defenders (Klaassee Beer)

- Livin' Blues (Ruud van Buren)

- Long Tall Ernie and the Shakers (Ruud van Buren)

- Orange Upstairs (Dave Duba, Peter Sjardin and Martin

  van Duynhoven)

- Q65 (Beer Klaasse)

- S.T.S. (Sjardin's Terrible Surprise) (Peter Sjardin)

 

 

 


 

Genre: psych

Rating: *** (3 stars)

Title:  Paradise Now

Company: Discofoon

Catalog: VD 7063

Year: 1969

Country/State: Holland

Grade (cover/record): VG/VG

Comments: Dutch pressing

Available: 1

GEMM catalog ID: 4708

Price: $200.00

Cost: $66.00

 

Outside of Holland and hardcore collecting circles these guys are all but unknown, which is ashamed given they were quite a talented outfit.  

 

Ironically, while I was living in Belgium in the late 1970s I could have picked up copies of this LP (and their other two studio sets) for about $5 - $7 a pop.  Unfortunately my money went to bands like The Doobie Brothers and Peter Framption ... what was I thinking?

 

Group 1850 (I gather the Dutch spelling is Groep 1850), morphed out of The Hague-based beat band The Klits (yes it was slang for clitoris).   The original  line up consisted of drummer Beer Klaasse, singer/keyboardist Peter Sjardin, lead guitarist Daniel van Bergen and bass player Rob de Rijke (who was quickly replaced by Rudd van Buren. 

 

By 1966 the band was active on the Dutch club circuit, opening for a wide variety of English and American acts, including The Kinks, Pink Floyd, The Stones, The Troggs and even The Mothers of Invention.  They also scored a recording contract with Paul Acket's small Yep Records, releasing an instantly obscure single 'Misty Night'' b/w 'Look Around' (Yep catalog number 1013).

 

Their growing popularity caught the attention of Philip with signed them to a contract, releasing a pair of psychedelic-flavored singles:

 

- 1967's 'I Know (La Pensee)' b/w 'I Want More' (Philips catalog number J333835

- 1967's 'Mother No-Head' b/w 'Ever Ever Green (Philips catalog number J333901)

 

Following the release of their 1968 debut "Agemos Trip To Mother Earth" the band collapsed.  Klaasse, van Bergen and van Buren ended up forming Boots.  Klassee then went on to join Finch.  Within a year Sjardin reformed the band, recruiting a new line up consisting of guitarist Dave Duba, bassist Dolf Geldolf and drummer Martin van Duynhoven.

 

Released by the Dutch DIscofoon label, 1969's "Paradise Now" sports a sound that's quite different from the debut.  Ditching the hippy-dippy, pop-psych sentiments of the first album, the sophomore album features a much tougher and darker sound complete with plenty of pounding guitar (courtesy of Duba).  Musically the results aren't particularly focused, with the band thrashing around in a mixture of progressive, blues-rock and even Hendrix-inspired psych ('Purple Sky').  That said, the combination of heavily accented English vocals, totally nonsensical lyrics (check out ''Friday I'm Free') and the group's obvious enthusiasm for the material makes it kind of endearing and this one truly does grow on your the more you play it.  While I don't have a large collection of Dutch music, I'll put this one in my top-5 list.

 

"Paradise Now" track listing:
(side 1)

1.) Paradise Now   (Daniel van Bergen - Peter Sjardin) -  5:22

2.) Friday I'm Free   (David Duba - Peter Sjardin) - 2:54

3.) Hunger   (Daniel van Bergen - Peter Sjardin) - 4:54

4.) Circle   (David Duba - Peter Sjardin) - 1:08

5.) Lonelyness   (David Duba - Daniel. van Bergen - Peter Sjardin) - 2:16

 

(side 2)
1.) 
Martin en Peter (instrumental)  (Martin van Duinhoven - Peter Sjardin) - 1:55

2.) ? !  (instrumental)   (David Duba - Peter Sjardin)  - 

3.) Purple Sky   (David Duba - Peter Sjardin)  - 10:53

 

 

 


Genre: psych

Rating: *** (3 stars)

Title:  Agemo's Trip To Mother Earth

Company: Pseudonym

Catalog: VP99.003

Year: 1999

Country/State: Holland

Grade (cover/record): NM / NM; gatefold sleeve; 1000 pressing with 3D glassses

Comments: Dutch pressing

Available: 2

GEMM catalog ID: 5657

Price: $75.00

 

Just to underscore, this is a 1999 reissue by the Dutch Peudonym label.  If you want a copy of the 1969 original (Philips catalog number PY 844083) break out your checkbook and look elsewhere.

 

 

 

"Agemo's Trip To Mother Earth" track listing:
(side 1)

1.) Steel Sings   (Daniel van Bergen - Peter Sjardin) -  

2.) Little Fly   (Daniel van Bergen - Peter Sjardin) -  

3.) I Put My Hands On Your Shoulder   (Daniel van Bergen - Peter Sjardin) -  

 

(side 2)
1.) You Did It Too Hard   (Daniel van Bergen - Peter Sjardin) -  

2.) A Point In This Life   (Daniel van Bergen - Peter Sjardin) -  

3.) Refound   (Daniel van Bergen - Peter Sjardin) -  

4.) Reborn   (Daniel van Bergen - Peter Sjardin) - 

 

Group 1850 was probably one of the best bands to ever
come out of the Netherlands! Unfortunately though,
with all the other psych giants back in the sixties
coming mainly from America and London flooding the air waves
through out the majority of the decade, the world seems to have
almost completely forgotten this brilliant band.
Unlike most bands outside of the English speaking world,
they weren't held back by language barriers since
they seem to be fluently bilingual, but their sound,
although excellent in every aspect, most likely had
too strong of an underground/garage feel
for most American radio stations to play
and as amazing as they are, even I have to say
that they're no Zeppelin, so they really could have used
more commercial exposure to help them survive.
Also, I have heard that despite how amazing their
first two albums were, their third and final one,
which I still cannot find, was a major let down
and cause many fans to turn away from them...
Nonetheless, this album, as well as their album 'Paradise Now'
are both extremely excellent albums and any lover of
psych of any kind should definitely check them out!

By all rights, the Dutch music ensemble Group 1850 should hold the same mythic stature that Pink Floyd obtained. First of all, Group 1850 represent Continental Europe's first progressive rock band. Their compositions are designed for the trippy effect, organ overlays, relentless throbbing bass, active percussion, spacey and phased voices and, best of all, an acidic guitar tone that uses every bit of studio trickery and tone affectation available at the time.

Clearly a parallel group to Pink Floyd, Agemo's Trip to Mother Earth is taken from the same cloth as Saucerful of Secrets. In retrospect, though, Group 1850's work is more creative which one may expect from a Continental band without any commercial restraints. Sure, there are some pure psych moments to be had - but just hearing the title track should put anyone in awe who can hear this is an historical perspective. There just flat out wasn't anything like this in 1968. The fuzz guitar, the trippy voices, the acid induced phased effects, and the drumming (oh - the drumming). It's a bona fide masterpiece in the field of psychedelic progressive music.

Paradise Now is possibly even better. Now they've managed to lose the trendy psychedelic trappings for a truly creative work. There is a more pervasive ethnic element this time around with wind instruments and hand percussion. It's amazing how timeless this music is 30+ years later. Just brilliant.

One would expect that after 5 years, a band would have changed directions radically. Especially in an era when musical trends changed with the seasons. Perhaps a fusion album? Hard rock maybe? Pop? But not Group 1850. Still going after it with their unique brand of psychedelic progressive music. In fact, Polyandri is more refined and varied - being a primarily instrumental album. This album features an array of sounds from complex prog rock compositions to simple bluesy workouts onto trippy psych organ based excursions similar to their first 2 LP's. Wonderfully out of touch for 1974!

All 3 of the above are essential for the adventurous European progressive listener. Group 1850 also had at least 2 live albums during this period which I have yet to hear.

Agemo's Trip to Mother Earth has been beautifully restored not only on CD but also on LP with the original gatefold 3D cover and glasses by the high quality Dutch label Pseudonym. Unfortunately, Paradise Now exists only as a boot LP and CD (though good quality). Even worse, the only CD pressing of Polyandri is taken from crackly vinyl. Let's hope for quality reissues similar to that given to their debut.




Sjef Oellers 6-April-2001 Agemo's Trip To Mother Earth

Group 1850 is a Dutch band playing 60s psychedelica with elements of West Coast acid rock and early Pink Floyd. Some parts are a bit dated, especially the central "trippy" and/or hilarious part in the 10 minute plus "Ï Put My Hand on Your Shoulder". Lots of "Mother Earth" worshipping and "we should be all together" declamation in Dutch and terribly accented English and German! Nevertheless, this is quite an excellent album in the style mentioned above

 

One would expect that after 5 years, a band would have changed directions radically. Especially in an era when musical trends changed with the seasons. Perhaps a fusion album? Hard rock maybe? Pop? But not Group 1850. Still going after it with their unique brand of psychedelic progressive music. In fact, Polyandri is more refined and varied - being a primarily instrumental album. This album features an array of sounds from complex prog rock compositions to simple bluesy workouts onto trippy psych organ based excursions similar to their first 2 LP's. Wonderfully out of touch for 1974!

All 3 of the above are essential for the adventurous European progressive listener. Group 1850 also had at least 2 live albums during this period which I have yet to hear.

Agemo's Trip to Mother Earth has been beautifully restored not only on CD but also on LP with the original gatefold 3D cover and glasses by the high quality Dutch label Pseudonym. Unfortunately, Paradise Now exists only as a boot LP and CD (though good quality). Even worse, the only CD pressing of Polyandri is taken from crackly vinyl. Let's hope for quality reissues similar to that given to their debut.




Sjef Oellers 6-April-2001 Agemo's Trip To Mother Earth

Group 1850 is a Dutch band playing 60s psychedelica with elements of West Coast acid rock and early Pink Floyd. Some parts are a bit dated, especially the central "trippy" and/or hilarious part in the 10 minute plus "Ï Put My Hand on Your Shoulder". Lots of "Mother Earth" worshipping and "we should be all together" declamation in Dutch and terribly accented English and German! Nevertheless, this is quite an excellent album in the style mentioned above.

Groep 1850 emerged from the renowned Dutch group Klits (short for 'clitoris') from The Hague. The line-up in 1965 consisted of: Peter Sjardin (vocals), Trevor Dirksen (guitar), Caspar Kiebert (drums), Chris Zieck (bass) & Jacques de Jong (guitar). On 1st January, 1966, the group renamed itself into Groep 1850. Their progressive music immediately revealed that the group was far ahead of its time!

In 1966, the line-up changed to: Peter Sjardin (vocals, flute, organ), Ruud van Buuren (bass, in 1969 to Livin' Blues), Daniel van Bergen (guitar & piano), Beer Klaasse (drums, ex-Kick & Defenders; in 1969 to Q65) & Rob de Rijke (bass, flute; ex-Subterraneans). In September 1967 they played at the Amsterdam Concertgebouw, opening for the Mothers of Invention. The LP "Agemo's Trip To Mother Earth" was the first Dutch concept LP featuring works of poet Hans Wesseling (1968).

In 1968, the group disbanded for almost a year and then chose Amsterdam as the home base for their reunion. The new line-up consisted of: Peter and Daniel (who'd played with the Boots in the meantime) and some new members: Dave Duba (g, ex-Burning Sun), Dolf Geldof (bass, ex-Burning Sun) and jazz drummer Martin van Duynhoven (a.o. ex-Hans Dulfer). From 1971 onwards, Groep 1850 worked on and off.

In 1974 Groep 1850 disbanded once again, after working on the "Orange Upstairs" project. Two years later, a live LP was released by the ever-active Peter, with cooperation of Hessel de Vries, Neppy Noya, Arthur Ebeling (guitar) & Paul van Wageningen (drums).

After a call for autographs through the "Basta" magazine in 1979, the LP "Paradise Now" (earlier released by V&D) was re-released.  Soon thereafter, Peter formed a new group: S.T.S. (Sjardin's Terrible Surprise). Line-up: Ella Elbersen (v, to Herman Brood), Robbie Smit (v, to Herman Brood), Axel Westerduin (b, ex-Stock, replaced in 1980 Kees van Vooren, who went to Just Like Eddie), Mike Willis (g, ex-Eyes, replaced in 1980 Wouter Planteijdt, ex-Door Mekaar, to Herman Brood) and Wilfred Versnellens (dr). In 1981, the group name was changed into S.I.X. (Sjardin's Invisible X-factor). In 1982 an LP by Sjardin's Terrible Surprise was "posthumously" released.

GROEP 1850

1966	Look around/Misty night Yep 1013
1967	I know (La pensee)/I want more Philips JF 333835
	Mother nohead/Ever ever green Philips JF 333901
1968	Zero 1850/Frozen mind Philips JF 333973
	We love life/Little fly Philips JF 334646
	LP Agemo's trip to mother earth Philips PY 844083
1969	Pipeline/ ?
	LP Paradise now Diskofoon VD 7063
1970	Don't let it be/Sun is coming Action 2102004
	Sun is coming/We change from day to day Intertone
1971	Fire/Have you ever heard Polydor 2050111
1973	LP 1850 live [opnamen 1969] Orange OP 1
1974	Orange Upstairs, first experience Universe
1975	Mother nohead/Fire Philips 6012500
	LP Polyandri Rubber RR 1851
1976	LP Live on tour Rubber RR 1852
1979	LP Paradise now [re] Killroy KFA 13058 KL

S.T.S.

1982	LP Live 1 Black Hole VR 22037

ORANGE UPSTAIRS

In 1974, Groep 1850 performed under the name of Orange Upstairs ("Oranje boven") and released an album in the following line-up: Peter Sjardin (v, o), Martin van Duynhoven (d), Dave Duba (g), Hans Dulfer (sax) and Ed Neumeister (b).

1974	LP First experience Universe

Dutch Charts

GROEP 1850
30-12-67 SINGLE 24 5 MOTHER NOHEAD

Submitted by: Adri Verhoef (a3@a3.xs4all.nl-removespam)


Groep 1850 was formed in The Hague, in November 1964, by Peter Sjardin. He was, in turn, discovered by Hugo Gordijn when he was playing with a band called The Klits in the basement of a bowling alley in Scheveningen. Says Gordijn: "The Klits played funny and different kind of music, very good in a comical sort of way."

When The Klits decided to work with Hugo as their manager, the band's name was changed to Groep 1850. Their first gig in March 1966 at the Scheveningen Casino impressed the crowd, the band's name immediately became known on the underground scene. Sjardin copies members of bands such as The Move and The Who by mutilating his keyboard on stage. Their music of that period is best described as avant-garde rock with psychedelic influences, and a comparison with The Mothers of Invention would definitely be in order.

Paul Acket released the first single on his Yep label, entitled, "Misty Night"; it sounded not unlike Q65 and the Pretty Things.  Radio Caroline gave the song lots of airplay, hence the band garnered even more attention in Holland. As a result, Hans van Hemert offered the band a contract. At the end of 1967, "Mother No-Head" was released; it became a hit song. A little detail: Van Hemert did the vocal part on this one!

This success landed the band their first tour of Germany. Sjardin remained the only member of the band to stay until the breakup in 1975. At a certain moment, something happened that caused the collapse of the band. Jaques Senf, Freddie Haayen, Beer Klaasse, Ruud van Buuren and Dean van Bergen were invited to join other bands. Beer went on to Q65 and Ruud joined Long Tall Ernie and the Shakers.  Martin van Duynhoven (drums) Dave Duba (guitar), Dolf Geldof (bass) joined Groep 1850 in their stead, while Dean van Bergen came back.

The band embarked on a heavy touring schedule; once a month they played at the Paradiso in Amsterdam. Groep 1850 supported groups like The Kinks, The Troggs, The Rolling Stones, The Mothers of Invention and Pink Floyd. Hugo was very much impressed by Zappa. Frank was very gentle, not as weird as people might have thought he was. In England, Groep 1850 played at the Speakeasy club, promoted by the Apple organisation of The Beatles. A drug bust organised by the police at that event unfortunately banned the band from playing in the UK.

What are the original members doing now?

Peter Sjardin lives in a basement somewhere in Amsterdam. Beer Klaasse is a successful manger at The National Printing company. Dean van Bergen lives quietly with his dogs at Loosduinen. Martin van Duynhoven is still an active drummer in the music business.

During their existence, Groep 1850 was always an underground band. Therefore, expect to pay a lot of money for their original singles and LPs nowadays.

However, if you're looking just for their music, there's no need to pay that much anymore: in late 1997, Pseudonym has released the band's first album on CD. Not only that, but the said CD also contains 13 previously unavailable (on CD) bonus tracks including their entire collection of singles, originally released between 1966 and 1971, plus two previously unreleased tracks.


Taken from "Agemo's Trip To Mother Earth" CD, Pseudonym CDP 1047 DD
Translated by: Louis Rentrop (uriahboz@zeelandnet.nl)
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This Dutch group was one of the earliest Continental European progressive rock bands.

The history of GROUP 1850 (aka GROEP 1850) starts from year 1964 from the band called THE KLITS. There were several changes in the line-up’s during the the decade their career lasted, only Peter Sjardin remained as the permanent member of the band. Their first public performance with the name GROUP 1850 was in the Scheveiningen Casion in March 1966. Their gigs gave them attention in the underground scene, and some single releases and radio airplay in Holland followed. In September 1967 they warmed up MOTHERS OF INVENTION at the Amsterdam Concertgebouw, and their first longplayer "Agemo's Trip to Mother Earth" (1968) has been stated as the first Dutch concept LP.

Acid rock elements are clearly present in their first albums from the end of 1960’s, and PINK FLOYD’s “Saucerful of Secrets” album has surely been an innovator for them, like to so many other spaced out groups. Their music isn’t an exact copy of their innovator’s sound though, as there is a wide spectrum of different styles merged to the band’s music in custom of psychedelia’s artistic freedom. The overall feeling of the band’s early music is nonrelaxed but not very aggressive, probably pleasing the fans of music describings a cosmic journey within one’s mind.

The career of the band continued with both inactive and active periods and with continuous changes in the personnel. Musically maybe the most important event was release of the album “Polyandri” in year 1974. Their mostly instrumental music grew to a larger scope containing strong musical elements.

In the same year the keymembers of the GROUP 1850 performed with the name ORANGE UPSTAIRS (Oranje Boven). The released one album with this name and then changed back to GROUP 1850. The band broke up in 1975, and the members went to join other bands. The original vinyls of the group’s releases have reached high prices in the collector’s markets.


Discography:
1966 “Look Around / Misty Night” single, Yep 1013
1967 “I know (La Pensee) / I want more” single, Philips JF 333835
1967 “Mother Nohead / Ever Ever Green” single, Philips JF 333901
1968 “Zero 1850 / Frozen Mind” single, Philips JF 333973
1968 “We Love Life / Little Fly” single, Philips JF 334646
1968 “Agemo's Trip to Mother Earth” LP, Philips PY 844083
1969 “Pipeline”, single
1969 “Paradise Now” LP, Diskofoon VD 7063
1970 “Don't Let It Be / Sun is Coming” single, Action 2102004
1970 “Sun is Coming / We Change from Day to Day” single, Intertone
1971 “Fire / Have You Ever Heard” single, Polydor 2050111
1973 “1850 Live” LP, Orange OP 1
1974 “Orange Upstairs” LP, first experience Universe
1975 “Mother Nohead / Fire” single, Philips 6012500
1975 “Polyandri” LP, Rubber RR 1851
1976 “Live on Tour” LP, Rubber RR 1852
1987 “The Great Single Tracks”


Eetu Pellonpää


Sources:
Agemo's Trip To Mother Earth CD booklet by Pseudonym CDP 1047 DD
http://Rateyourmusic.com
http://www.amazon.com
http://www.last.fm
http://gnosis2000.net
http://www.cduniverse.com
http://www.alexgitlin.com/groep.html
http://www.dutchcharts.nl/

Remarkable Dutch band which (mainly) sings in English. This is progressive psychedelia and the 1997 edition is one of the best ever reissues from a non English speaking world group - the kind of find that spurs one on to collect psychedelia.  Sound quality and production is excellent - warm, dense and full blooded. There is a hard electric guitar driven feel to 1 - 5 and a gentle acoustic feel to 6 & 7. The low point is a spoken interlude in 3 that is far too long. Steel Sings and the first rate Little Fly are the stand outs. This is genre classic as it stands but there are 13 bonus tracks of A & B sides from 66 - 68 that stand comparison with some of the best of the unsuccessful UK heavy mod-soul bands that drifted into psy - hot tracks like Look around, Zero and a superb cream pastiche Dream of the Future. The anglophile Dutch were often better able to compete with the UK than the rest of Europe and its a mystery to me how this hot band remain so obscure - except perhaps that the follow up album was a complete disaster of piffling raga noodling that bears no comparison to the first.
antonbildern
Aug
06
2007

5.00 stars
teach your children to listen to this!


CD


[Rating10617292]
Great psychedelic album, that aged very well and stands with the period masterpieces (Pink Floyd, Soft Machine, Incredible String Band, Jefferson Airplane, Frank Zappa, etc...). It almost predates Gong in "You Did It Too Hard". The jam-session track ("I Put My Hands On Your Shoulder") is just terrific, with backward drum tapes and a lysergic ambient. The two gemini final tracks are one of the most weird acoustic psychedelic coming from sixties...
Tezcatlipoca
Jun
16
2007

4.00 stars
Alyosha


CD


[Rating9865710]
Sonically they kinda resemble those early Pink Floyd songs that ended up in the Relics comp, maybe not as catchy (or as good) and songwriting driven but probably odder and earthier.
mrgoggle
Jul
24
2006

4.00 stars

Vinyl


[Rating5597551]
wow,some of the weirdest psyche i've heard in some time .these guys were wacked! sounds a little hokey in spots but you know something?? they were so sincere that you just have to lov'em.recommended
hello43
Dec
17
2005

5.00 stars

CD


[Rating3355323]
Beautiful Dutch psych album. These guys were obviously influenced by and listened to a ton of English psych, but were just as great as their English contemporaries. Really solid all the way around. Superb musicianship and arrangements. Absolutey love the superb acid guitar playing on this. My '97 Dutch reissue on the Pseudonym label comes with 13 extra bonus tracks, many of which are great. 3D cover is very cool too. If you don't have the glasses though, you're out of luck. The cd itself is one of the best remastered disks I've heard.
bilbo1742
Nov
17
2005

4.00 stars

CD


[Rating3141860]
Nice psychedelic band from the Netherlands.
jaap
Sep
05
2005

4.00 stars

CD


[Rating2674105]
nice Dutch psychedelica from the 1960's ... It really freaked me out when I heared some dutch speaking in a couple of songs ... before I actually did not know they where dutch

Group 1850 is an interesting, if sometimes exasperating, late-'60s Dutch band who ranks among the most accomplished and original Continental rock acts of the era, though they made little impression in English-speaking territories. Starting as a more or less conventional beat band in the mid-'60s, they had taken a turn for the more psychedelic and bizarre by 1967. Determined to drive into the heart of the psychedelic beast, their songs (performed in English) are quite eclectic for the era, shifting from doom-laden tempos with growling vocals to sunny, utopian passages with breezy harmonies. The group could be roughly labeled as a mixture of the early Mothers of Invention (whom they supported at a Dutch concert in 1967) and Pink Floyd without much of a sense of humor; their songs are intriguing and not without powerful hooks, and the lyrics ambitious (if often inscrutable), but one's attention tends to wander over the course of an album, or even during their lengthier songs. Their late-'60s LPs are highly esteemed by some serious psych/progressive collectors.

Agemo's Trip to Mother Earth was one of the most ambitious psychedelic albums to emerge from continental Europe in the late '60s. The LP's nominal concept was, like many early such endeavors, obscure, involving something like the journey of Agemo from a paradise-like planet to the more chaotic imperfection of Earth. Musically, the record owes a lot to late-'60s British psychedelia (particularly of the Pink Floyd school), with hints of the onset of progressive rock in its less-conventional passages. Although plenty of melodic shifts, celestial organ, wiggling distorted guitar, harmony vocals, Gregorian chant-like singing, Mothers of Invention-like horns, beatific respites (on "Reborn"), and general freakiness entertainingly convey the exploration of new psychic territory, it ultimately lacks the lyrical and musical cogency of, say, late-'60s Pink Floyd. At times the bold weirdness gets self-indulgent, throwing in phased drum soloing, solemnly intoned spoken female romantic exclamations, and multilingual murmuring. The album was reissued, in its original sequence and its entirety, as part of the Group 1850 CD compilation 1967-1968 [Allmusic.com]

This download only contains all 7 tracks from the LP, the 1997 CD release contained 16 tracks…

Track list;
01 - Steel sings
02 - Little fly
03 - I put my hands on your shoulder
04 - You did it too hard
05 - The point in this life
06 - Refound
07 - Reborn

Group Eighteen Fifty is an interesting, if sometimes exasperating, late-'60s Dutch band who ranks among the most accomplished and original Continental rock acts of the era, though they made little impression in English-speaking territories. Starting as a more or less conventional beat band in the mid-'60s, they had taken a turn for the more psychedelic and bizarre by 1967. Determined to drive into the heart of the psychedelic beast, their songs (performed in English) are quite eclectic for the era, shifting from doom-laden tempos with growling vocals to sunny, utopian passages with breezy harmonies. The group could be roughly labeled as a mixture of the early Mothers of Invention (whom they supported at a Dutch concert in 1967) and Pink Floyd without much of a sense of humor; their songs are intriguing and not without powerful hooks, and the lyrics ambitious (if often inscrutable), but one's attention tends to wander over the course of an album, or even during their lengthier songs. Their late-'60s LPs are highly esteemed by some serious psych/progressive collectors.

MORE INFO.... (wiki)

Group 1850 was a psychedelic rock band from The Netherlands, considered by many to be one of the finest acid rock acts Europe has ever produced. The band was founded in 1964 in Hague by the name Klits and renamed Group 1850 in 1966, when their debut single, Misty Night / Look Around, appeared on the tiny Yep label. Though few copies were pressed, it established them as one of Holland's most original bands (alongside the Outsiders and Q65) and they soon signed to Philips. More singles ensued, in a highly psychedelic vein, including the brilliant Mother No Head. Their debut album, Agemo's Trip To Mother Earth, appeared in late 1968. In Holland its sleeve had a 3-D image on the cover, and came with a pair of 3-D glasses (copies with the glasses unperforated are especially prized today). The album's concept is incomprehensible, but its superb songs and musicianship have ensured its lasting cult reputation, and it has been called the most truly psychedelic album ever recorded. A UK release (also on Philips) did not help the band gain a footing outside Holland, and Philips dropped them soon afterwards. Their next album, Paradise Now, appeared on the Dutch Discofoon label in 1969 and was only marginally less acid-influenced than its predecessor. The band disbanded soon afterwards, but was sporadically active through the 1970s. Especially notable was another excellent single, 1971's Fire / Have You Ever Heard?, which appeared on Polydor (again, with a picture sleeve).

 

 

 

One of the greatest psychedelic albums ever released. I don't say that lightly, as I own around 1000 U.S. and import psychedelic releases from the late 60s and this one is in my top 20. If you like great fuzz guitar, Pink Floyd, or just really cool arrangements, then this is it. I first got it on tape in the early 90's and when this CD came out with tons of bonus trax I was in heaven. If you want to discover great hard-to-find psychedelic music, then track this down along wiht Morgen, Music Emporium, Kak, Aguaturbia, Bokaj Retsiem, Bent Wind, etc.
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5.0 out of 5 stars One of the most awesome Psychedelic albums ever!, August 28, 2006
I couldn't agree more with the reviewer from Woodland Hills that this is one of the all time best psychedelic albums ever! I too have heard quite a few psychedelic albums over the years, and I decided to buy this CD just based on reading the reviews here on Amazon, and wow, am I glad that I got this because it's a masterpiece! I've been playing guitar myself for over 44 1/2 years, and this has some of the most psychedelic and awesome fuzz-guitar playing you'll ever hear! Sure there's some pretty trippy, bizarre, and even strange things going on during the long track called "I Put My Hands On Your Shoulder," but the rest of this album, along with a ton of bonus tracks, makes this CD a great one to have in your collection if you dig 60's style psychedelic rock. I can't really say that this sounds like Pink Floyd or any other group, they really are a combination of so many different sounds and groups it's hard to categorize them, but I think when fans of Psych music hear this, they will be blown away, I sure was! Get this CD, it is a true classic and masterpiece! Glenn Signal Hill,CA
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5 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars astonishing psychedelic masterpiece with bonustracks!!!, September 6, 2005
By  PortugueseMusicFan (Porto, Portugal) - See all my reviews
I bought the cheap "rotation edition" of 2002 and I'm completely fascinated with this unknown masterpiece of european psychedelic rock!!! I have a huge collection of psychedelic/prog-rock and I get this thinking that'll be another interesting cd for a couple of listenings, but...in the last week I give this a dozen of enjoyable listenings!!! It's not only the "Agemo" album, but also (and especially) the bonustracks...Well, "I Know", "Mother No-Head", "Ever Ever Green", "Zero", "Frozen Mind" and "We Love Life" are simply some of the best psychedelic (sometimes creepy!!!)songs of the late sixties, walking side by side with the masterpieces of Pink Floyd, Soft Machine and others!!! What GREAT basslines and
peculiar percussion on "We Love Life"; "Ever Ever Green" is beautifully ornated with a terrifying chorus and vibes; "Zero" and "Frozen Mind" are tremendous songs, with that ufo-like atmosphere, again a full-blown bass lines, everything in a apocalyptic scenario!!!
This tracks with the "Agemo" album are probably the best psychedelic music (so fresh today!) to be made in the Continental Europe in that time!!! Well done, Netherlands!!!!

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3 of 3 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Universal People, December 31, 2005
By  ProEvil (MA) - See all my reviews
  
Rare dutch psych band that where quite sophisticated and unique. Many have compared this to early Pink Floyd, but I hear more of a Mother's of Invention influence if anything. Actually, this band very much has their own sound but the silliness and heavy cut-and-paste usage remind a little of zappa. The album itself would actually warrant four and a half stars, but the Rotation CD version rates a little lower because of the shoddy packaging. There are many extra tracks which is nice for the price, however.
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4.0 out of 5 stars Group 1850 - 'Agemo's Trip To Mother Earth' (Rotation), May 1, 2007
By  Mike Reed (USA) - See all my reviews
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Originally released in 1968, looks to be the Dutch psych band's first of three albums. To me, it sounded a lot like the first two Pink Floyd's lp's. Not that I'm complaining, mind you. 'Alemo's Trip' is a good find. It's noted as being one of the most accomplished psychedelic works from that era. Couple of the tunes here that impressed me the most were "Little Fly", "You Did It Too Hard", "Refound" and most of this CD reissue's nine bonus tracks I liked as well. Line-up: Peter Sjardin-flute&vocals, Dave Duba and Daniel VanBerger-guitars, Dolf Geldof-bass and Martin Duynhoven-drums. A should-have.
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4 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars Pretty dated but full of nice hot licks nonetheless.., October 23, 2006
For those listeners who simply can't handle multi-lingual stream of consciousness lyrical intrusions into the musical hot licks, this CD should be avoided. For those who don't mind a little Timothy Leary along with the tunes, this will be just fine. The cover art shows a large group of individuals across several generations, commune style, but basically Group 1850 was a five piece, although I suppose some of those pictured may be significant others doubling as backup singers, accompanists, etc. The playing is indeed very hot in most places, but it may take some patience to get there since the chants are pretty heavy near the beginning of the work.
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1 of 1 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars Addicting psychadelia, August 4, 2006
By  Nuno Leal Da Silva "Emilio Robin" (Lisboa, Portugal) - See all my reviews
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Imagine Mothers of Invention mixed with Lee Hazlewood's Cowboy in Sweden choruses, with drops of Electric Prunes, Pearls Before Swine, drops of 60's garage psy-rock, a bit of Gong and you almost get what goes on this record. And for me, one of alltime best songs - Reborn. I did!
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4.0 out of 5 stars solid psych, July 31, 2005
this is quite a find here. one thing i love about buying psych albums is the rare, one off recordings from a band you've never heard of but fall in love with. group 1850 follows a pretty strict psych diet of fuzzy guitars, loud, tight bass, keyboards (mostly organ but some harpsichord too i think) and drums. there are very nice moments of reeds and harmonica (a real treat). the vocals are done in two part harmonies, very drony but sung well. there are some weird moments that you almost want to skip, but taken in context, they're bearable. most of the songs are in the three to four minute range with one thirteen minute excursion into weirdness. i'd recommend this one to fans of the usual psych players (floyd, music emporium, united states) but also to fans of daevid allen's gong. the only reason this gets four instead of five stars is the complete lack of liner notes. still a good release with a lot of quality bonus tracks.

 

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