Supertramp
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line up 1 (1969-70) - Richard Davies -- vocals, keyboards - Roger Hodgson -- vocals, keyboards, guitar, bass - Richard Palmer -- guitar, vocals - Bob Millar -- percussion, harmonica
line up 2 (1970-71) NEW - Kevin Currie -- drums (replaced Bob Millar) - Richard Davies -- vocals, keyboards - Roger Hodgson -- vocals, keyboards, guitar, bass NEW - Frank Farrell -- bass (replaced Richard Palmer) NEW - Dave Winthrop -- sax, woodwinds
line up 3 (1973-83) NEW - Rob Benberg (aka Robert Layne Siebenberg) -- drums, percussion (replaced Kevin Currie) - Richard Davies -- vocals, keyboards NEW - John Anthony Helliwell -- sax, woodwinds, vocals (replaced Dave Winthrop - Roger Hodgson -- vocals, keyboards, guitar, bass NEW - Dougie Thomson -- bass (replaced Frank Farrell)
line up 4 (1983-88) - Rob Benberg (aka Robert Layne Siebenberg) -- drums, percussion - Richard Davies -- vocals, keyboards - John Anthony Helliwell -- sax, woodwinds, vocals - Dougie Thomson -- bass
supporting musicians: - Mark Hart -- lead guitar - Nick Lane -- brass - Scott Page -- brass - Lon Price -- brass - Steve Reid - percussion - Lee Thornberg -- brass - Marty Walsh -- lead guitar - Dave Woodford -- brass
line up 5 (1997-2002) - Rob Benberg (aka Robert Layne Siebenberg) -- drums, percussion - Richard Davies -- vocals, keyboards NEW - Mark Hart -- vocals, lead guitar, keyboards NEW - Cliff Hugo -- bass (replaced Dougie Thomson) - John Anthony Helliwell -- sax, woodwinds, vocals - Jesse Siebenberg -- vocals, percussion, guitar NEW - Lee Thornberg -- horns NEW - Carl Verheyen -- lead guitar NEW - Tom Walsh -- drums, percussion
line up 6 (2002-) - Rob Benberg (aka Robert Layne Siebenberg) -- drums, percussion - Richard Davies -- vocals, keyboards - Mark Hart -- vocals, lead guitar, keyboards - John Anthony Helliwell -- sax, woodwinds, vocals NEW - Jesse Siebenberg -- vocals, percussion, guitar
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- Agrosy (Roger Hodgson) - Bees Make Honey (Dougie Thomspn and Rob Benberg) - Alan Bown Set (John Anthony Helliwell) - Breakthru (Frank Farrell) - Crowded House (Mark Hart) - Heads Up - Roger Hodgson (solo efforts) - Jack Knife (Richard Palmer) - The Joint (Richard Davies) - Orange Bicycle (Kevin Currie) - Secret Affair (Dave Winthrop) - John Wetton and Richard Palmer Jones
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Rating: *** (3 stars) Gene: progressive Title: Supertramp Company: A&M Catalog: SP-3149 Country/State: UK Year: 1970 Grade (cover/record): VG / VG Comments: minor ring and edge wear Available: 1 Catalog ID: 5471 Price: $8.00
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Funny that I can tell my age by the fact 1970s culture seems to be regaining some semblance of popularity with younger people. For goodness sakes, rappers Gym Class Heroes sampled 'Take a Look At My Girlfriend' for their hit 'Cupid's Chokehold'. That got me thinking I'd go back an reacquaint myself with Supertramp's early catalog.
With backing from friend/sponsor/Dutch millionaire Stanley August Miesegaes, in 1969 singer/keyboardist/drummer Rick Davies decided to form a band. He placed an ad in the English music newspaper Melody Maker, recruiting singer/guitarist/keyboard player Roger Hodgson, drummer Robert Millar, and guitarist Richard Palmer. Originally known as Daddy, within a couple of months they'd opted for a name change, deciding on Supertramp based on a W.H. Davies book. With help from Miesegaes the group attracted the attention of A&M Records, releasing their self-titled album in early 1970. I'll readily admit the self-produced. "Supertramp" didn't do a lot for me when I first heard it. In fact I remember actually getting rid of my original copy. A couple of years later I found a cheap copy at a yard sale and decided to give it another shot. Same impression the second time around. Luckily I put it in my 'listen to again' pile 'cause the third time around the album began to reveal some of its charms to me. While I've seen the set described as being progressive, that's not a particularly apt description. Yeah, there were certainly progressive elements to be found in tracks like the ballad 'Aubade And I Am Not Like the Other Birds of Prey' and 'Words Unspoken', but those were far and few between. By the same token anyone looking for something along the lines of their late-1970s commercial breakthroughs is likely to be disappointed. 'It's A Long Road' and '' were surprisingly mainstream rockers, but again they were atypical. That left most of the collection sporting a laidback, mid tempo feel that had a habit of wandering around the place (check out 'Nothing To Show' or the 12 minute 'Try Again'). Stuff like 'Maybe I'm a Beggar' (with a nice guitar solo jumpin' out about midway through) and 'Shadow Song' didn't necessarily jump put at you, but given a chance the subtle hooks and nifty performances had a way of growing on you. Personal favorite - the rocking segments of 'Try Again' . In spite of a slot at the 1970 Isle of Wight Festival, the album proved a commercial non-entity in the UK, and didn't even see an American release. In fact, it wasn't until 1977 and the band's breakthrough success with "Breakfast In America" that A&M raided its corporate vaults electing to release the set domestically. Benefiting from a curious, or perhaps confused audience that didn't realize this wasn't new material, the collection actually managed to hit # 158 on the pop charts. Adding to the group's problems guitarist Palmer suddenly quit the group in 1970. He was followed out the door by drummer Millar.
"Supertramp" track listing: (side 1) 1.) Surely 2.) It's A Long Road 3.) Aubade And I Am Not Like the Other Birds of Prey 4.) Words Unspoken 5.) Maybe I'm a Beggar 6.) Home Again
(side 2) 1.) Nothing To Show 2.) Shadow Song 3.) Try Again 4.) Surely (instrumental)
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Rating: *** (3 stars) Gene: progressive Title: Indelibly Stamped Company: A&M Catalog: SP-3129 Country/State: UK Year: 1971 Grade (cover/record): VG+ / VG+ Comments: small cut out notch on lower edge Available: 1 Catalog ID: 5477 Price: $8.00
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Female breasts are usually a pretty good marketing tool, but I've got to tell you that even overlooking the tattoos, the ones showcased on 1971's "Indelibly Stamped' have to be the ugliest set I've ever seen ...
"Indelibly Stamped" track listing: (side 1) 1.) Your Poppa Don't Mind - 2:58 2.) Travelled - 4:14 3.) Rosie Had Everything Planned (Frank Farrell - Roger Hodgson) - 3:01 4.) Remember - 4:00 5.) Forever - 5:05
(side 2) 1.) Potter - 2:23 2.) Coming Home To See You - 4:39 3,) Times Have Changed - 3:42 4.) Friends In Need - 2:08 5.) Aries - 7:25
Indelibly Stamped, Supertramp's second album, was an improvement on their debut, although the group did have a tendency to indulge themselves in long-winded instrumental sections.
Indelibly Stamped is the second album by progressive rock band Supertramp, released in 1971 (see 1971 in music). Like their début, this album was also a commercial disappointment, which resulted in the loss of their financial supporter and the ultimate break-up of the band at the time. Original editions have a colour gate-fold cover and different text for the band name and album title. The cover photograph features the tattooed torso and arms of a woman. This is the first Supertramp album issued in the US; the cover was in colour (in 1971), but A&M pasted two gold stars over the nipples. All songs written by Rick Davies and Roger Hodgson, except where noted [edit] Side one"Your Poppa Don't Mind" – 2:58
[edit] Side two
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[edit] Cover artThe cover depicts the tattooed torso and arms of a woman. It is commonly believed that the model for the cover was Rusty Skuse, largely due to a tattoo on the left arm which names "Bill" and "Rusty", however a comparison between the album cover and photographs of Skuse's tattoos show that this is not the case. According to Paul Sayce, writing in Tattoo News, the model was Marion Hollier, who was extensively tattooed at the Les Skeuse Tattoo Studio in the 1960s.[1]
The only Supertramp album of very diverse quality: some songs are really
awesome, while others being simply terrible. I think, that comes mostly
of growing influence of Rick Davies - as their first LP had been done
mostly in melodic style of Roger, here they gave Rick a try, and we have
more of his simple jazzy-rockers, which have never been the strong side
of the band.
So, as an album the record is unlistenable. But here is some diamonds in the dirt : Travelled, Aries, - both very airy, flute-sounded, road songs ) Rosie - Indeed, THE BEST WALTZ-SONG I'VE EVER HEARD. Great melody, very tender and moody.
An album that is often overlooked. 'Travelled' and 'Aries' are sublime!
Indelibly Stamped is one of Supertramp's less well-known
releases coming, as it did, before they received any major commercial
attention. It reveals a band in the midst of developing their own style
and still unsure of their own abilities. There is no hint here of either
the success they would later enjoy nor the more commercial side of rock
they would favour. What does shine through, however, is the promise of a
band who exhibit a breadth of musical accomplishment way above the
average and a dual vocal approach which, given the contrast between Rick
Davis and Roger Hodgson, provides an added unique dimension.
But good musicianship does not a good album make. The "mock" live performance of "Remember", according to the sleeve notes, is deliberately played at full volume throughout. Well, all I can say is that their amps obviously don't go up to eleven! In fact I'm not sure they climb much pass five. It's a tired, lethargic track which is followed by the equally trudging "Forever". The honky tonk arrangement given to "Your Poppa Don't Mind" is sort of alright except it's very reminiscent of Status Quo and I'm not sure that's who they were trying to emulate. "Coming Home To See You" has a nice train rhythm as an underlying motif but is too dreary and the same can certainly be said for "Times Have Changed". Even the more upbeat numbers like "Friend In Need" – with another honky tonk piano – sound as though they're only being played half-heartedly. In the end Indelibly Stamped is a very strange collection of songs: very well performed but totally, utterly, irrevocably dull.
Only for "Aries", this second album is far better than the
first, but it's also an average album. Not my kind.
Only big fans of this band would buy this album, probably because of its
nice artwork. But 35 years after its release, it sounds as a pretty
decent hard-prog-rock album.
Mandatory.
This album is a cruel désenchantement after its fantastic predecessor.
All the stuff here is lifeless, boring and forgettable. Don't waste your time with it; it's one of the most insipid work done by Hogdson/Davis. Not atrocious but unworthy from guys who will record the fantastic Crime of the Century after this. For fans only.
Their second album shows the band beginning to find their own sound.
There are some weak tracks, but overall an enjoyable listening
experience. No way did I ever see Crime of the Century coming
after the first 2 albums however!
"aubode" and "bird of prey" are two great songs
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Rating: *** (3 stars) Gene: progressive Title: Crime of the Century Company: A&M Catalog: SP-3647 Country/State: UK Year: 1974 Grade (cover/record): VG / VG Comments: minor ring and edge wear Available: 1 Catalog ID: 1735 Price: $5.00
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In my case, Supertramp stands as one of those 1970s guilty pleasures I'm a little embarrassed to admit to. It may have something to do with the fact their latter stage work seemed to dominate the top-40 airwaves during my high school years, merely reminding me of our lost youth ... who knows. On the other hand it's kind of funny to hear one's 17 year son humming "The Logical Song" ... where in the world did he hear that one?
Released in the wake of their split with long time benefactor/Dutch millionaire Stanley Miesegase, 1974's "Crime of the Century" found the band moving in pursuit of a more commercial orientation. Recorded during an extended stay at a farm in Southcombe, Somerset, Richard Davies and Roger Hodgson were again responsible for all of the material, though this time out financial necessities saw the focus shift to shorter, more radio-friendly material. Produced by Ken Scott, the results were surprisingly impressive, offering up a mix of keyboard dominated tracks the highlighted catchy melodies and interesting song structures. The album quickly spun off a pair of radio hits via the singles "Bloody Well Right" b/w "" (A&M catalog number AM-1660) and "Dreamer" b/w "" (A&M catalog number AM-). Peaking at # 38 the LP also provided the band with their first true American commercial success.
"Crises? What Crises?" track listing: (side 1) 1.) School (Roger Hodgson - Richard Davies) - 5:34 2.) Bloody Well Right (Roger Hodgson - Richard Davies) - 4:31 3.) Hide In Your Shell (Roger Hodgson - Richard Davies) - 6:48 4.) Asylum (Roger Hodgson - Richard Davies) - 6:43
(side 2) 1.) Dreamer (Roger Hodgson - Richard Davies) - 3:31 2.) Rudy (Roger Hodgson - Richard Davies) - 7:19 3.) If Everyone was Listening (Roger Hodgson - Richard Davies) - 4:04 4.) Crime of the Century (Roger Hodgson - Richard Davies) - 5:36
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Rating: *** (3 stars) Gene: progressive Title: Crises? What Crises? Company: A&M Catalog: SP-4560 Country/State: UK Year: 1975 Grade (cover/record): VG+ / VG+ Comments: original inner sleeve Available: 1 Catalog ID: 1736 Price: $5.00
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Co-produced by Ken Scott and the band, to us 1975's "Crises? What Crises?" stands as another step in the band's transition towards a more commercial identity. With the material again written by Richard Davies and Roger Hodgson, tracks such as "Lady" and "Sister Moonshine" is quite commercial, though it isn't nearly as impressive as the previous set. Elsewhere tracks such as "A Soapbox Opera" and "The Meaning" ensured there was still plenty of progressive-oriented material for older fans, though it didn't do a great deal for our ears. Commercially the set didn't do bad, peaking at # 44.
"Crises? What Crises?" track listing: (side 1) 1.) Easy Does It (Roger Hodgson - Richard Davies) - 2.) Sister Moonshine (Roger Hodgson - Richard Davies) - 3.) Ain't Nobody But Me (Roger Hodgson - Richard Davies) - 4.) A Soapbox Opera (Roger Hodgson - Richard Davies) - 5.) Another Man's Woman (Roger Hodgson - Richard Davies) -
(side 2) 1.) Lady (Roger Hodgson - Richard Davies) - 2.) Poor Boy (Roger Hodgson - Richard Davies) - 3.) Just a Normal Day (Roger Hodgson - Richard Davies) - 4.) The Meaning (Roger Hodgson - Richard Davies) - 5.) Two of Us (Roger Hodgson - Richard Davies) -
Courtesy of YouTube you can see a performance of the title track: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVPhVV1dYd0
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Rating: ** (2 stars) Gene: progressive Title: Free As a Bird Company: A&M Catalog: SP-5181 Country/State: UK Year: 1987 Grade (cover/record): VG+ / VG+ Comments: still in shrink wrap (opened); original inner sleeve Available: 1 Catalog ID: 5921 Price: $9.00
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Roger Hodgson had briefly rejoined the band to support release of their 1986 retrospective "The Autobiography of Supertramp" but hard feelings between principals had not disappeared (urban legend has it that their wives didn't get along leading to the partnership breaking up) and by the time the band regrouped to record their next studio LP, Hodgson had resumed his low-keyed solo career.
Recorded in L.A. with Rick Davies and the band producing themselves, by the time 1987's "Free As a Bird" hit the streets Supertramp had already lost the majority of its audience (as an example, I didn't even know this album existed for until ten years after it was released). Judging by this one, it became fairly easy to see why their audience had evaporated. With Rick Davies serving as the prime writer (all nine tracks were credited to him), this time out the band seemed to have lost their way. The group's longstanding ability to mix and match pop, progressive, and quirkiness was replaced by an ultra smooth set of adult contemporary sounds that came awfully close to elevator music. All of the danger signs were on display here - a horn section; studio players, a Tom Lord Alge mix ... super slick and thoroughly soulless ...
- Try as I might, I just couldn't enjoy 'It's Alright'. The cheesy synthesizers, sham Latin rhythms, strained vocals, French backing vocals, horns ... yech. A total mess. rating: * star - Opening up with an AOR sax solo, 'No the Moment' was little more adult contemporary background noise. Your attention was guaranteed to wander within the first 20 second. Sheer boredom. rating: * star - Giving credit where due, 'It Doesn't Matter' at least sought to recapture their classic sound. The instantly recognizable keyboards were there as was Davies voice. Unfortunately the results were a forgettable pop song. rating: ** stars - 'Where I Stand' was nothing more than a slice of corporate rock. More a product than a piece of art, this could have been something Toto, or any of those other faceless mid-1980s L.A. bands was pushing out the door. I'll give it an extra star for having something the resembled a melody. rating: ** stars - So the first dozen times I heard the title track track it made absolutely no impact on me. Part of that may have been the fact it came after four really bad side one songs. By the time you got to this one most listeners were just burned out. 'Free As a Bird' is far from a great song and doesn't come within a country mile of Supertramp classics, but surrounded by the rest of this crap it wasn't half bad. Decent melody and the Gospel-ish feel wasn't half bad. One of the better performances on the LP. rating: *** stars - It wasn't quite a disco number, but 'I'm Beggin' You' had a distinctive dance flavor to it, easily explaining why it got quite a bunch of exposure on the dance charts. You can just hear longtime Supertramp fans having cardiac arrests listening to this one. Pure crap. rating: * star - A bouncy pop song, 'You Never Can Tell with Friends' was an okay performance. Nothing great, but not nearly as bad as some of the other stuff here. - With a reggae-tinged background 'Thing for You' was one of the few memorable performances. Not exactly a throwback to prime Supertramp, but it was kind of quirky and was also one of the few performances were Davies sounded like he was actually enjoying himself. rating: **** stars - Well at least the band subscribed to the truth-in-advertising credo with 'An Awful Thing To Waste'. Compared to the rest of this set, the track actually had a progressive feel to it. Mind you it wasn't progressive as in old Supertramp, rather progressive in a 10 C.C. mold - namely cutesy and self-absorbed. The Caribbean rhythms were certainly likable and the song actually generated a bit of energy towards the end with guest guitarist Mark Hart turning in an excellent solo. Again, compared to the majority of the set, this was quite good, but then that was a fairly low baseline for comparison purposes. rating: *** stars
A&M also tapped the album for a pair of singles:
- 1987's 'I'm Beggin' You' b/w 'No InBetween' (A&M catalog number 2985) - 1987's 'I'm Beggin' You (Straight Pass)' b/w 'I'm Beggin You (Mad House Mix) and 'Im Beggin' You (Dub)' (A&M catalog number SP-12245) 12" format - 1987's Free As a Bird' b/w 'Thing for You' (A&M catalog number 2996)
So the bottom line was this one was pretty painful. Listening to a band that was once clever and mildly entertaining reduced to mindless and faceless AOR ... Shame to see such a monumental waste of talent, or perhaps better stated - 'An Awful Thing To Waste'. Most folks can pass on this one without a major loss. Kind of a fluke, but with the single 'I'm Begging You' making some noise as a dance club hit the parent album actually hit # 101 on the US charts.
"Free As a Bird" track listing: (side 1) 1.) It's Alright (Rick Davies) - 4:57 2.) No the Moment (Rick Davies) - 4:34 3.) It Doesn't Matter (Rick Davies) - 4:49 4.) Where I Stand (Rick Davies) - 3:38 5.) Free As a Bird (Rick Davies) - 4:20
(side 2) 1.) I'm Beggin' You (Rick Davies) - 5;27 2.) You Never Can Tell with Friends (Rick Davies) - 4:14 3.) Thing for You (Rick Davies) - 3:59 4.) An Awful Thing To Waste (Rick Davies) - 7:47
And that spelled the end of Supertramp for over a decade.
For anyone interested, here' are a couple of YouTube links to videos for 'I'm Beggin' You' and the title track. Shame they didn't spend as much money writing the songs as filming the glitzy videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eevzjx7YL84
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgKc6Ynpjyo&feature=fvw
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